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06/25/2008

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Dude, this is all utterly false. Your a moron, and a dangerous one at that, because you have managed to make it sound like you know what your talking about.

In fact it looks like your entire site is one lie to push the right wing agenda. You obviously have more love for your political ideology than for the truth, your country, or your fellow Americans. I suggest you catch the next boat to China.

Behold, the marvel of a leftist debate. Notice Joseph can't actually tell me where I went wrong.

Facts are stubborn things. Joseph Cardwell, of Round Rock, TX, roundabout Austin way. You should be careful when you leave disparaging comments with trackable information. Yes, that was me who just called you.

You should know better, especially when you're an internet consultant.

Also - learn the difference between your and you're.

Example: Your debating skills are poor, versus you're not so bright, leaving a comment that exposes your lack of intelligence.

What's with these people?

Your premise id false. You present a piece by Obama from Spring 2006, and say "Doesn't he have any engineers advising him?" This is ancient history...Barack has since modified his ehtanol stance, tho he does see it as in the mix of reducing foreign oil dependence.
You seem to want to muddy the debate by hauling out old news and presenting it as current.

@ Bill - So are you saying that Obama no longer wants an increase in CAFE? I find that hard to believe.

@ Jim - Good post.

Bill,

Earlier last week, I discussed his energy policy as Barack has it on his website. He still says his big accomplishment was E85 stations with Jim Talent, and he wants to tax oil companies.

He wants to spend that magic $150 billion he takes from oil companies and put it into alternative energy, but as my post demonstrates, that's easy to say, but it means nothing.

What he doesn't say, or rather what isn't reported, is the fact that oil will be the basis of our economy until we find another source from a technological breakthrough. If you don't use oil, you run out of money to make the breakthrough.

I'm very late to this party, but I'd like to point out, Jim, that our own big three car manufacturers make vehicles that are MUCH more fuel efficient than then ones available here for the European market. And Europe has very high crash safety standards.

Check out these Fords:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/automotive_news/4221669.html
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-of-europe-joins-game-of-special-economical-trim/

They certainly don't look like tin cans to me.

Jaaelite,

An excellent find. A couple of things though. Those are small cars you found - and they're diesel engines. There's also a difference in the way that European countries measure fuel economy and Americans do.

The car is smaller, has a diesel engine (which is worse for smog), and has thinner tires (better gas mileage, not as fun driving and not as safe).

Maybe we should be looking at cars like this - but if we're to do so, it involves real changes in our car-buying habits and in what's available.

A final note - the price tag is $34,000 for a Econetic versus $14-16,000 for an American focus. That's quite a bit of change. The American car gets 35 MPG Highway.

That's quite the price tag jump.

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